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we introduce the senate bill. we dropped the border security part of that and included the republican committee passed in the house of representatives security provisions. we try to appeal to the republicans in the house into he republican led homeland security committee to include their component. we think that is a bipartisan bill that could enjoy the majority of the house. i also urge republicans if they do not agree with that, i urge mr. eric cantor to put one of the four bills on the floor. we would probably vote against them. if that is their alternative, that we think they ought to move forward on them. or for that matter put the house homeland security bill on the floor. most of us would be and can -- inclined to support that bill. what he has indicated is that he does not want any of the bills to be used as a conferencing
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device this week. that is unfortunate. hopefully speaker boehner is looking for ways to move his caucus forward on this issue. >> a shift to appropriations. you bought yourself some time last month with the budget deal. now you're moving on the deadline and it does not look like you will meet it. it is more likely that you will do a cr. is there a length of time that you are going to be adamant about? s there a price tag you're looking for? >> my understanding is that a cr would be a very short-term cr. just a few days. that depends on how close the appropriators are to getting in
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on the this -- and on the this -- an omnibus bill agreed on. if we start talking about a longer-term cr, it would be my position that we have had a budget conference. it was not in the budget conference form. it was in the form of a bill. we have agreed on what the 302 allegation is. the money we will spend on non-entitlement money. that figure is agreed upon at 1.012 trillion dollars. a little over a trillion dollars. my view is that is the number that we ought to have any kind of cr on of any type. the problem is if we do not pass bills in the administration would allocate that money and that is not the congress responsibility to do that. in any event, i will be supportive of a few days extension to give the committee time to get its work done. >> four minutes left. >> if you could give us what can congress truly work on this year that will be able to get done? what are you most confident about?
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>> congress can certainly get something done if the republicans are prepared to put on the floor pieces that will enjoy bipartisan support will not simply be message bills. we are very hopeful that the unemployment bill gets it done short-term and long-term. e are very hopeful we will address comprehensive immigration reform. we think that can get done. it got 68 votes. it was not as if it was a partisan passed bill. they enjoyed bipartisan support. i think they will enjoy bipartisan support in the house as well. we like to see the minimum wage
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raise. income inequality has been focused on by the president. we are focusing on that as well. we think that is a real challenge to america that we have the gulf between the rich and the middle-class and the rich and the poor being as large as it has been in a long time. we would like to end discrimination and employment. this is a bill that passed with significant bipartisan support in the united states senate. e see no reason why a could be passed. we think it would get bipartisan support. we think the democrats would own a significant -- a significant number a democrat it's would be for it and a significant number of republicans would be for it. it is going to be our number one priority. we hope that can be done. we hope those are some of the
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issues that we can accomplish in the second session. >> our guest last week said the next collections will be fought over the affordable care act. do you agree or anticipate there will be a number of votes on the house floor the session on the affordable care act? >> as you know on friday we had to vote on the affordable care act. right out of the first week of the session. there is no doubt in my mind that the affordable care act, which has been perceived to be politically advantageous to the republicans to talk about at nottingham and to try to repeal -- at nottingham and to try to repeal, they believe that is a ode is taking issue. i think what they're going to find is the affordable care act is going to work. they're going to find millions nd millions of people have
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joined, and got an affordable, quality health care for themselves and their families. they will see millions of people who were added to the medicaid rolls so they will not be coming to hospitals. they will see millions of people as they had with pre-existing conditions. f that is going to be an issue we are going to embrace it. we believe the affordable care act is good for the country. the roll out was not good. we were not happy with that. the president was angry. we were angry about the rollout not being done successfully. we think over the long term that this is a bill that is good from america. -- good for america. we think it will be a positive, not a negative. >> that is it for our time.
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thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much. it is good to be with you. >> he is sounding a bit ptimistic. last year was very challenging for the congress. it was not even an election year. what does it really look like to both of you? >> i think it will be very tough to do immigration. particularly in the house this year. it doesn't look like they will be able to get a consensus. republicans do not want to do a comprehensive package. democrats have been pushing for hat. republicans need democrats to pass these bills. if you have to support that one hing it will not happen. >> the democrats do not control the house. even a lot of these bills that have passed have not been enough for them to bring these things o the floor.
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the question is how you get these things to the floor. they keep saying public pressure will do it. they seem to do whatever they want. the indication is besought the house calendar. it is extremely thin. i think republicans are looking at the election right now and certainly not what were your wants to do. >> when you look at 2014, is very different then 2016. when you look at congressional districts, and many of them it is not as much as a priority as it is when you look at national elections. nationally they need to get their act together. this is a very different electric. i want to ask you both to explain. we start talking about
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appropriations, we quickly moved into washington speak. i am wondering if you can translate how people who were affected by government shutdowns know that there has been a compromise forged here. what is going to happen with something of the federal government over the next couple of months. >> i do not think anybody knows. people are certainly fed up with it. it had been 17 years since the last shutdown. there is a reason for that. the reason is congress has 9% popularity. they do not want to do that again. republicans to be blunt of the blame. hey do not want to do it
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again. >> it will not be likely a compromise. >> the political cost for republicans are too high. they do not want to run on government shut down. it is not good politically. >> what is the relationship between the two bodies? >> it does not seem like there is a whole lot of consensus. the budget deal is very much a ipartisan event. >> they have proven they can do it when they absolutely have to. you will see that again with the farm bill. they have gotten together. i think they will come up with omething that steny hoyer said will pass. >> that compromise includes the
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cutback but for some number of people on food stamps. this is something they are compromising on in an election year. what should we understand? >> republicans will claim they are compromising as well. they do not bring almost $40 million. they would say they have compromised even more. that was the strategy all along. > does it offer a playbook for the year? >> obama has brought up inequality and things like hat.
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both sides want to make this an issue. these are republicans saying it was a failure in democrats saying that agenda has been a success. that will be a theme all year long. they're trying to get people out f the working class would they can pay taxes. >> they're having low approval ratings as we are opening up the congress. i am wondering what will his ideas provide? >> i think you will hear a lot about the minimum wage and things that affect the middle and low income americans. i think you will push that. the approval ratings are tied very closely to how the affordable care act plays out. we will see how this is going through the year. >> thank you very much. national captioning institute] able satellite corp. 2014]
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>> jackson drew a sharp line between state's rights and succession or nullification. succession was the obvious consequence of nullification. he drew a sharp line, why? because he remembered as he stroked his head that the british were out there and they were waiting to pick the american states off one by one. jackson, i have to reiterate this. jackson thought the world was a dangerous place. and that danger was something jackson felt personally. as president of the united states he felt it institutionally for the country. he believed that succession, the separation of the states would open the united states up to attack, threat, coercion by foreign powers starting with the british. >> andrew jackson and crisis management. later today at 7:30 eastern on
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c-span 3. >> if i were to identify the single most important challenge to overcome as muslims, it would be that. the truth of the matter is the reason why we are here today is because of this inclination which i read somewhere that is t only ahistorical but anti-historical. hundreds of years of diversity subscribes to the idea that to be a muslim have you to follow it from the seventh century and the very limited short period of time. i think our journey as american muslims has to be about refusing who speak y clerks
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for us that islam in ylings is a seventh century ideology. we need an islam of the 21st century. >> being muslim in america, part of back tv this weekend on c-span 2. we'll be discussing the liberty amendments. read the book and decwroin conversation. and enter e the chat room > next some of the issues that president obama and congress are facing before the midterm elections. from "washington journal" this is an hour. > our sunday round table
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>> there is this tying chris christie, the gop tarnished olden boys bob mcdonald facing a worse situation as he left office yesterday. there is this from this morning, the muddled search for a gop leader. the chris denari tiss has brought more disruption to the early stages of the republican search for a 2016 nominee. >> we are taking about 2016 and we just barely creeped into 2014. we have a long way to go. remember in 2007 when hillary clinton was the nominee two years away, a funny thing
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happened on the 20th of january. the notion that this stuff should be settled two years in advance is just silly on the one hand. on the other hand, it's probably good to have somebody that is sort of leading the charge. fan or non-fan, he doesn't have anybody guarding his flanks. nobody on the left wants to help and nobody on the right wants to help so he's out there by himself. and it's a difficult situation to be in. become the party of no.
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i have been insisting among my friends in the house that they come up with reasonable alternatives. they just have not been able to do that. i will stop here. the issue i have with republicans, at least congressional republicans, is that if they want the country to one, them with article they have to show some actual concrete plans moving forward. host: this headline from the huffington post -- chris christie could be impeached. that is if he knew about what was happening. there's also this from the new jersey ledger -- guest: that is typical. host: pointing out more subpoenas. guest: there is no question that
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this is not the end. we have barely scratched the surface. that is the problem. right now, there is nothing tying him to what happened personally. the big problem here, which we see pointed out in many of the articles that we are seeing written about him, is what was it about him that created this culture among his advisers? we have been principles to very high officeholders. the closest advisors, the inner circle, normally reflects the values. staff toeputy chief of have thought that it was ok to do this, in such a brazen manner, to have e-mailed the way that she did, ordering the traffic lanes to be shut down -- how does one person do it by themselves? that is another question.
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if you look at his press conference, he painted himself , buts the buck stops here as i was blindsided and humiliated. like a victim. with the not coincide kind of image he himself has worked so hard to project. lots of questions there. it does not mean he will be tied to this. it reflects his leadership style in terms of that brazenness. a lot of people love it, but a lot of people criticize it. i think he has issues. guest: let me just tell. -- help. the question is not such as leadership style. everything you said would be correct. guest: maybe people do not want the kind of new jersey -- that is the problem. guest: that is quite profitable
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that's possible. -- possible. everyone will figure that out. host: before the story unfolded, we talked but how would play out. this is from the new york times. the i and christie storm. post, theashington new jersey narcissist, pointing out that he used the word "i" 692 times. i will get your response. times. -- his greatest obstacles are his own self regard and his blindness to the idea that he may have erred. he spoke more about himself than that romney. guest: chris christie is chris
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christie. you'll like him or not like him. he makes that clear. i guarantee that where he would play well is against south carolina. if you one ugly politics, that is the heartland. after they kill somebody dead politically, they look over and say he did not have to run. the problem is, in terms of presidential, voters want to know that you're doing this for them. he is all about him. one of the biggest problems that for 120 days, he knew that this was swirling around. what does he do when this was first brought up? he joked about it. he mocked it and laughed about it. focus on trying to figure out what really happened. he knew that two of his closest advisors were connected to the
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port authority and resigned. it you are a principal, don't you think that would be strange? try to figure out what happened there. that questioning, in terms of the periodic they about what really happened, especially around an issue that really hurt his own borders -- that really hurts him. it gives an image of a commander in chief or executive who doesn't care. guest: two things -- -- the other thing about -- that i thought was interesting, having been through this over the summer luba, that even when he pointed out that he talked to andyhief of staff,
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admitted she said she liked to go with that is as far as he went. lied to him, she said that is as far as he went. see,anted to be able to the only thing i asked her was did july, and she said yes. i think that comes from being a u.s. attorney. plausible deniability. host: is he a bully? everybody in the country who engages in politics knows that. on the other hand but that is very different than saying someone is a bully. discussion -- did heated discussions and arguments with people in my own party and
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on the other side of the aisle. i have passion for issues, i do not hide my emotions from people. group tested,s low drag candidate. i'm a governor. that has always made people uneasy. some people like that, some people don't. the question is are you willing to change your style to appeal to a broader audience, and i said no. i am who i am, but i'm not a bully. oft: there are a lot appearances to richard nixon's i am not a group of and bill clinton's i did not have sex with that woman. this is going to go back on him? guest: one of the principal things we tried to change aaa crisis was do not repeat the charge.
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he did well until the last four words, and that is what everyone picked up on. he is the betting -- betting the ranch on being himself. i don't think this thing is going to have an impact on the total arc of the election. morning's "the new york times" there was not a news story about this in the entire thing. issue, it here is the do not think you really had a chance of make -- he really had a chance of making it through the republican primary. scandal, and those four words that you talked about, are going to be an ad from one of his conservative rivals, along with the hugging president obama. i thought he was done before, this is going to make it that much harder. dumb -- in win is a a democratic state is --
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that willther thing make it very difficult, he is completely alone. in new jersey, democrats voted for him, they're not going to vote for him at any time during a presidential. they are going to abandon him, the right is going to abandon him, he is all alone. the "bostons globe." a big factor is alienation on snooping. we learned over the weekend that the white house administration we will hear from the president, a major speech on friday. guest: this is no question that that this is hurt -- that this
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has hurt him. he was at this level of pulling polling the year before he was elected. this president is very good about bouncing back ray quickly about the issues. he does that by facing issues head on. one of the things we're going to see and talk about during the nsa speech that he is going to give is that he is going to take a look at what the issue is to what the challenges are. he said for the very beginning, when all of this came out, that there is a military -- a very delicate balance between privacy and security. the majority of americans believe him. and agree with him, frankly, especially after 9/11. this whole nsa issue has been there has been loud critics all the right to critics on the left, and the
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progressives hate this, but mainstream america has dealt with this with a collective shrug, because they understand that they would rather error on the side of providing security so something like 9/11 could never happen again, and having to give up a little privacy. what this president will outline is what will that look like? he will be more transparent about what they're doing. i think the american people can handle the truth. host: we will be covering the washing -- the president's beach c-re on c-span about life -- span, live. guest: let me just say something the nsa thing, i think it is generational. people my age, what are they
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going to find out about me? latee that are in their 20's, early 30's, especially in , thatnments we are in they can be looking down the road and knowing that there is some guy out there that has been listening in on their phone -- since theylast were called, that is very unnerving to them. it is largely generational, which would account for that drop in young people support. what i said earlier is exactly right, if the washington-based republican party would begin offering up solutions instead of just either voting for things they know in the house are not going to get through the senate, or get the senate floor, just she will we voted for, i think that that number
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would reverse itself pretty quickly. there is no gigantic mood -- move toward the avocado party as an identification either. hostguest: they have done a lotn their own to alienate people. here are our phone lines. where is the smoker line? host: do either of you smoke? i did, but i quit 1980. i quit because i was going to die. i go to -- could go through a carton of cigarettes into or two and a half days. he started smoking in the morning, and you kept going until then at night.
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the 50thr thoughts on anniversary of the surgeon general's warning? ofst: i think this care as last year, i think they had a positive impact. something else to say you may live, but this is what you're going to look like. guest: i think that is very generational, because in 1980, and even before that, it was cool as smoke, now among people, it is that you are looked at as a pariah. host: let's talk about control of the senate because about half eats couldet -- s determine whether or not the republicans get back into all of the senate, but according to this latest poll there is only about three true tossup senate races.
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there are others living -- who leanen these either republican or democrat. guest: i think the people that watch this program, and will watch later on this morning with a know where they are committed to with that what they arenow going to do, they're committed to where they are. get --democrats find can .ind candidates like we had guest: or if republicans cannot help themselves but putting
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their foot in their ballots -- in their mouths on reproductive issues and other things. i think rich is much more realistic. i've heard republicans talk about this, almost giddy janet -- in terms of their chances of turned -- taking over the senate and. . you cannot take anything for granted, but i guarantee you after they changed the senate rules, they're going to do everything they can in order to keep the senate. and i think the trajectory for the affordable care act is hoping them in that. we have more than 6 million people signed up for it, enrolled if you can't medicaid piece. count the medicaid pie ce. the more that republicans have
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this attitude, the more borders sayoters are going to this is relevant to me, i signed up for this. whether obamacare is going to be a plus or he might as side, i am willing to bet. time democratic supporter, and supporter of later reprinted -- supporter of hillary clinton. do you think she will run? guest: this is a very critical decision for her, and a top one. she left public office on a high .ote her numbers are very good right now, and everyone wants to hear from here. chiming in andt focusing on the issues that she cares about.
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i do think that you will probably have to decide next year. we will see the way things go. you already see people that are giddy about a campaign, a hillary clinton campaign, nec both sides tearing up at preparing for the possibility of her running. i think from the standpoint of somebody who has to quickly decide to put together a campaign, that is not her. she has the luxury of really waiting and waiting whether this is something that is good for her personally, whether it is good for the country. sheonally, i hope that runs, because i think it will be historic. i think that she will be a fantastic resident -- resident. president. former executive or of thec, spent time with
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bush administration. as you look at the situation unfolding in iraq, what stands out to you? guest: i wish it had turned out differently. we went in there for the right reasons, at least with the information we had at the time. -- overn in remodeling there many times. i've the piece of hell on my desk that did not guilty -- s hrapnel on my desk that did not kill me. there are a number of people that are still tribal in their nature, and it is very difficult to impose a mac or see on top of that. -- democracy on top of that. a lot of americans have gotten
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hurt, and a lot of iraqis have gotten hurt. democrats,ine for good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. are you with us? caller: good morning. i'm calling to say that i perhaps the governor did know about the events that were taking place. i don't think he meant it to go that far. christie?s we have to take him at his word, unless somebody can give up with -- can come up with a document or phone call that says otherwise.
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geraldine, from robbins, illinois. caller: good morning. get through, tour the volume down, that delays us a little bit. ,aller: it is more of a comment the lady was speaking about the culture. one thing, a lot of times attitude affects leadership. if these guys were able to hold this escapade off, it had to come from somewhere. i'm not saying that christie told them to do it, but once again, attitude reflects leadership. guy really quick, this should not be running for president of the united states. a lot of people think that we are ready joke -- we are a joke already. guest: i think she really
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underscores one of the biggest rubbles workers to google which i mentioned earlier. creating this culture. biggestf the problems for christie which i mentioned earlier. these are not satellite offices of the government that went rogue. this was his and her circle. veryis something that is disturbing commodity that is one of the things that is going to continue to dog him as this unfolds. at one point governor christie use the word vendetta. i tweeted that new jersey is the only political position in the country where the government could use the data in any context at not have reporters should off the ceiling. guest: you have become a caricature. bullying, wretched tradition --
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retribution. he is not exactly a sweetie pie. host: the washington post describes terry mcauliffe as exuberant and best friend bill clinton in attendance for the seven -- ceremony. "the new york times" out that they were there. guest: i think it was very smart of him to get the blessing for clintons to do just that. ofs he has a gift essentially bringing people together. you would not have known that because he was such a diehard partisan, and such a clinton supporter.
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